Quinn’s Testimony – Response to Dave’s Defense
by Quinn
...whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light,
and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops.
Luke 12:3
Real Names: Quinn, Dave, Kathy
Pseudonyms: Grace, William, Ryan
If you have not read my original testimony, I recommend reading that first – or at least the summary version.
Dave’s 9/19/25 Account
As I documented in my original testimony, Dave told multiple versions of the events of 5/15/23:
I don’t remember prophesying and I’m sorry if I did.
I did prophesy. I don’t remember denying it, but I’m sorry if I did.
During Dave’s monologue address of Friday Night on 9/19/25, he told a third version:
He does remember what happened
He encouraged me (in a non-prophetic way) to consider pursuing Grace.
The only thing he said prophetically was that God loved me.
Dave’s exact words are available in the appendix below. Full audio and transcript here (see timestamp 27:31).
Dave’s story is contradicted by:
My journal entry written within hours of the meeting (screenshot available in my testimony and appendix below).
The eyewitness testimony of the three people other than Dave in the room the night of the prophecy.
Multiple documented instances of Dave acknowledging he prophesied that night.
Eyewitness Accounts Contradict Dave’s September 19 Statement
Dave’s 5/15/23 prophecy occurred at a regular Monday Night leadership meeting. William and Ryan were both in the room when he delivered it.
I don’t want to publish the names of these men on the internet. However, many people know exactly who I am talking about. If you have any doubt, I encourage you to verify facts with them.
9/22/25 Call with William
In a one-on-one phone call with William on 9/22/25, I asked him his recollection of the events of 5/15/23. He responded as follows:
Dave’s words from that night were portrayed as from God
It was for you to marry [Grace]
It was strongly stated that it was from God
William is not someone who is against Dave. He continued attending both Friday Night and Monday Night meetings led by Dave after the website was published, and he has no personal testimony of being harmed by Dave. He is “Greg” in Jim’s update, the guy who was still in communication with Dave in December 2025, seemingly encouraging Dave to seek resolution with Jim. I asked William to make a public statement sharing what he witnessed on 5/15/23. He did not seem interested in that, but said that if anyone asked him, he would tell them plainly what he witnessed. My general impression is that William is inclined toward peacemaking and was not supportive of Dave being exposed on the internet.
1/24/26 Meeting with William
William and I had a further conversation on 1/24/26. We were discussing the topic of vague allegations circulating that the stories on the website were not truthful. I asked William to read the paragraph in my testimony that describes my experience of 5/15/23. It’s the paragraph at the top beginning “On May 15, 2023…” I asked him if he felt what I wrote was an exaggeration or misrepresentation of what he observed that night. He said that if anything, the way I described the events is understated relative to what actually happened.
Additionally, he said that Dave stated multiple times that the message he was giving was from God and not from him. He said that Dave wanted that to be extremely clear.
William also shared details I did not personally remember that reinforced that not only was Dave extremely clear that he was speaking prophetically, but that everyone in the room interpreted Dave’s words as such.
I explained that while I didn’t remember those specific details, the forcefulness with which Dave delivered the message was as if he had grabbed me by the shoulders, shook me, and said “if you’ve ever believed I hear from God, believe me now that what I’m telling you is from God.” William said that was accurate to his experience.
9/26/25 Text Exchange with Ryan
Ryan and I had several text conversations that touched on the same topic. His general posture in those conversations felt to me to be vague, avoidant, and as if he viewed the situation as a gray area. Even so, he still did not back up Dave’s story.
Here’s the key moment from a text conversation with Ryan from 9/26/25:
Q: Is your position that Dave gave general non-prophetic advice and that the only prophetic element was that God loved me?
R: No… but I don’t see how it matters what I think. You were convinced you received advice to marry [Grace] and that it was prophetic. If it wasn’t Dave should’ve clarified when you questioned him on it.
Documentation of Dave Affirming He Gave the Prophecy
I have heard from multiple people that Dave explains my journal entry from 5/15/23 by appealing to simply different interpretations of the same event. This too is demonstrably false, as Dave has been documented multiple times admitting his message was prophetic.
I am not posting every word of every document. When I wrote these, I intended them only for myself – as such, they can be disorganized, hard to follow, and deeply personal. If anyone claims I’m omitting important information, we can set up a third party to carefully read every single word and question me on it. They can also verify timestamps.
As a reminder of the timeline, my wedding was in December 2023 and my falling out with Dave was in March 2025. I was still active in Friday Night leadership all the way up until March 2025. These timestamped notes are from October and November of 2023.
Meeting Notes
Timestamp: 10-6-23
Reason for Meeting: I had lingering confusion about the original prophecy on 5-15-23.
Pre-meeting – wrote this down to remember to ask Dave:
Meeting Notes
Two separate meetings on 11/12/23 and 11/13/23.
File Timestamped 11/15/23
Reason for both meetings: Mental/emotional breakdown
- “The night before” at the top refers to Sunday night itself, not Saturday night. This phrasing was copied from another section of the document and not corrected at the time.
- “Originator” refers to the person who speaks a prophetic word, as opposed to one who merely confirms a word spoken by another.
- One line has been removed because it reflects poorly on third parties in the room.
- You can also see my own rationalization and excuse-making regarding Dave and Kathy’s inconsistencies.
This evidence establishes that Dave understood himself to have prophesied, not merely encouraged. Dave’s denial indicates he is willing to say whatever is situationally necessary in the moment to reduce pressure or backlash. In other words, Dave’s statements are not anchored to truth, but to image management and self-protection.
Dave’s 9/19/25 account—that he did not prophesy except to say that God loved me, and that I was the one who received the prophecy—represents a continuation of this already-established pattern.
Direct Response to Dave’s 9/19 Comments on My Testimony
Note: Dave’s words are not taken out of context, and have been edited only to insert pseudonyms.
Full transcript and audio here (see timestamp 27:31).
Dave’s words in italics.
In Quinn's testimony, he says, "On May 15th, 2023, Dave didn't come out and say the words, 'God is telling me you are supposed to marry [Grace].'" No, I didn't [laughs].
Here is Dave’s quotation of my testimony compared with the original wording, shown with omitted text struck through to make the changes visible:
On May 15, 2023, Dave delivered an extremely emphatic prophetic word to me that led me to believe it was God’s will for me to marry Grace, a young woman in the group with whom I had a great friendship but had never dated. It was odd. He didn’t come out and say the words, “God is telling me you are supposed to marry Grace,” but that was very much the message I came away with. He used leading questions while speaking with intense, mystical conviction. I was told to “act quickly.” At the end of the night, he emphatically stated, “that was NOT from me.” – basically a less KJV-sounding “thus saith the LORD.” In 8+ years of ministry with Dave, I had never heard him so confident he was receiving a message directly from God. Most of the time, when he spoke prophetically, he would use language and tone that indicated uncertainty, and this was a stark contrast to that. In fact, I felt that it was such a powerful spiritual experience that it would be borderline disobedient to ask other prophets who hadn’t been present to confirm the message.
At the end of the meeting that night, I gave Quinn a word from the Lord. I said, "Quinn, the Lord really loves you, and that's not from me." That was a word I was hearing from the Lord to give to Quinn, to encourage him about God's love.
As discussed above, this is false, and contradicted by every other eyewitness present, my journal entry from the same night, and Dave’s own documented statements above.
It’s not even that he’s pointing to something else that was stated during the meeting. What he is describing here never happened.
Later that night, [Ryan] texted, "By the way, my confirmation is that you should pray and ask the Lord. And whatever He says, lean not on your own understanding, feelings. Trust and obey." We had encouraged Quinn to pray and ask God.
As I stated in my original testimony, Ryan confirmed Dave’s prophetic word during the meeting. This text was him backpedaling to “you pray about it.”
If Dave only gave non-prophetic encouragement to pursue Grace, then why did Ryan use the word “confirmation”?
As a side note, this text message is exactly in line with the rhetoric I was fed when the engagement was going poorly. My strong sense that something was wrong was classified as “feelings” and mere human understanding that I was encouraged to disregard in favor of what God said.
The next week at our leadership meeting, Quinn reported that he had prayed and heard from the Lord that he was supposed to marry [Grace]. On their website, Quinn writes, "When I told [Grace]..." He uses an, a pseudonym, but everybody knows, he's, he's talking about [Grace]. I'm just talking straight. "When I told [Grace] everything several days later, she was completely shocked, but she also thought she heard a confirmation." June 16th, that Friday night, when we were studying Hebrews 11 and discussing faith, Quinn and [Grace] told the whole group, "God told me to marry [Grace], and God told me to marry Quinn."
Dave’s timeline is not right but that’s neither here nor there. I did pray and believe I heard a confirmation of Dave’s prophetic word.
I already explained in the FAQ at the bottom of my testimony why I wasn’t forthcoming with everyone in public that it was Dave’s prophecy.
Dave’s comments here do not explain why my journal entry fully attributes the prophecy to Dave.
On October 27th, Quinn writes on the website, "I contacted another prophet. At the end of the night, we prayed, and he believed he received a confirmation."
Very odd that Dave brought this up. If he’s trying to argue that he never gave the prophecy, then this tidbit establishes nothing. It really only makes sense to mention this if Dave is arguing he did give the prophecy and it was a true prophecy. Very confusing.
In any case, here is Dave’s quotation of my testimony compared with the original wording, shown with omitted text struck through to make the changes visible:
On 10/27/23, I contacted another prophet that had been discipled by Dave but was no longer at Friday Night, to get another opinion. Initially, he was taken aback to find out that Dave had been the one to speak the prophecy, rather than me receiving it from God directly. He suggested it could be a case of spiritual abuse / spiritual manipulation – two terms I had virtually no familiarity with, despite having been to seminary and been at Friday Night for 8 years. We met up in person on 11/1/23 and he asked me about my history of relationships, etc. He was encouraged by this conversation and felt like everything was making more sense. At the end of the night, we prayed, and he believed he received a confirmation.
In both the November meetings we had with him, Quinn was strongly encouraged to postpone the wedding if he had the slightest doubt about it. Multiple people encouraged him to postpone the wedding, and he said that he wanted to go ahead with it.
Mostly false.
One person (hereafter, X) raised postponement as an option. That person was not Dave. To say multiple people encouraged it is false.
There was no language of “slightest doubt,” nor was that idea communicated in essence.
During the same meeting that X brought up postponement, he also said quite a few other things. Here are the notes I took after that meeting (timestamped 11/15/23) about X’s words:
To be fair, X did emphasize at the end of the meeting: there is really no rush and you could postpone. He was in fact emphatic about that part: there is NO rush.
In any case, his messaging about postponement needs to be viewed in the broader context. X identified as a prophet, and was viewed as such by the group. X validated the marriage prophecy. It should come as no surprise that my meeting notes don’t even mention the idea of postponement. It was not a major takeaway.
On a more significant level, what Dave claims here is deeply at odds with the overarching message he instilled in me over the months-long engagement period, as I continually voiced my persistent anxiety and unease with the relationship: God has spoken, and you need to trust Him instead of your feelings.
Lots of other stuff he wrote, but essentially, if you read what he himself wrote on the website, he says repeatedly, "God told him." It was not that I told him. We encouraged him to pray. We encouraged him to consider pursuing [Grace] if he wanted to get married. That's what our first conversation was about.... but we never told him, "God's telling you to marry [Grace]."
This is mostly addressed above.
No, my testimony does not repeatedly say “God told me.” It is just baffling to me that Dave is openly misrepresenting the content of a published document, and hoping to not get fact-checked.
Kathy:
I want to underline that one, the last premarital counseling session. We were so awkward and pushy about it. [laughs] When are you sure? Do you want to? Should we cancel? Should we postpone? Are you positive? Not, "Are you positive?" He's positive. It was to the point that I was squirming, it was so awkward. And he was adamant. So we are just heartbroken for them, and we have been praying for them ever since. But we just feel like this retaliation is so inappropriate.
Somewhat true.
Kathy frames this as if it was her and Dave seeking reassurance that I was ready to move forward. I do not remember that. I distinctly remember Grace wanting reassurance.
And I did reassure her that I was at peace with moving forward with the wedding—not in the sense of “this is what I desire,” but in the sense of “I very confidently believe we’re on God’s path and He will provide.”
This occurred in the aftermath of the 11/13/23 meeting documented in my testimony. At that point, I believed that God had worked in that meeting to give me what I needed to move forward in faith. Neither Dave nor Kathy addressed the concerns I raised in my testimony regarding false statements and manipulative dynamics in that meeting, which both of them participated in and oversaw.
In any case, my expressed readiness to move forward at that time reflects my psychological state following that meeting, not a free or fully informed choice.
Appendix – More Documentation
Journal / Meeting Notes
Reason for Meeting: Mental/emotional breakdown
Timestamp: November 12, 2023, 10:44PM
Notes written after our 11/12 meeting with Dave and Kathy, before the 11/13 meeting with the larger group.
Note:
I omitted the beginning of the note, which is deeply personal and about my relationship, not the facts of 5/15/23.
Notice the language of “I don’t remember hearing anything at all from the Lord *directly* that night.” This is a response to the version of events Dave presented on 11/12/23: that he thought I myself had gotten a prophetic word during the meeting on 5/15/23. His story later changed to say it was the following week that I returned saying I had received a word from God. Both stories are false.
While this is written roughly six months after the original prophecy, it’s still one month before my wedding (December 2023) and sixteen months before my falling out with Dave (March 2025).